Comments on: The end of reason, indeed http://verticalstress.com/2009/07/08/the-end-of-reason-indeed/ Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:16:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Clinton Christian http://verticalstress.com/2009/07/08/the-end-of-reason-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-82 Clinton Christian Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:26:52 +0000 http://verticalstress.com/?p=169#comment-82 @dahni Atheists are those that do not believe in God. While I cannot speak for every atheist, it's fair to say that most atheists believe that there is no evidence, therefore no reason to believe in a god or gods. I, for instance, share as much belief in a god as I do in fairies, goblins, or the boogie monster. If billions of people believed in fairies, goblins, and boogie monsters, I would probably be labeled as afairy, agoblin, and aboogie-monster. This however doesn't suggest that these entities exist, just that the belief in them does, and that one doesn't share that belief. Twitter: @pygeek @dahni Atheists are those that do not believe in God. While I cannot speak for every atheist, it’s fair to say that most atheists believe that there is no evidence, therefore no reason to believe in a god or gods. I, for instance, share as much belief in a god as I do in fairies, goblins, or the boogie monster. If billions of people believed in fairies, goblins, and boogie monsters, I would probably be labeled as afairy, agoblin, and aboogie-monster. This however doesn’t suggest that these entities exist, just that the belief in them does, and that one doesn’t share that belief.

Twitter: @pygeek

]]> By: Dwight http://verticalstress.com/2009/07/08/the-end-of-reason-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Dwight Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:05:15 +0000 http://verticalstress.com/?p=169#comment-81 The way you wrote this thing makes the author sound so stupid, funny. Just to satisfy my curiosity, is the author a fundamentalist Christian? Many of them, who are obsessed with the Bible, and defend Christianity to the end of any form of reason, (in your words) commonly shoot themselves in the foot by cheating through leveraging emotional responses rather than thinking for themselves. I am Roman Catholic and I'm a believer. But I do believe that faith can never be faith until there are doubts. This End of Reason seems to not be faith, but blind, unthinking fanaticism. The way you wrote this thing makes the author sound so stupid, funny. Just to satisfy my curiosity, is the author a fundamentalist Christian?

Many of them, who are obsessed with the Bible, and defend Christianity to the end of any form of reason, (in your words) commonly shoot themselves in the foot by cheating through leveraging emotional responses rather than thinking for themselves.

I am Roman Catholic and I’m a believer. But I do believe that faith can never be faith until there are doubts. This End of Reason seems to not be faith, but blind, unthinking fanaticism.

]]> By: Dhani http://verticalstress.com/2009/07/08/the-end-of-reason-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-80 Dhani Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:04:35 +0000 http://verticalstress.com/?p=169#comment-80 I'm going to try and get philosophical as well. - Atheist exists if God exists, because they don't believe in God. - Atheist does exist. - Therefore God exists. If there's no God, there wouldn't be any Atheist? I think trying to prove that God doesn't exist is harder and actually need more faith than the opposite. I’m going to try and get philosophical as well.

- Atheist exists if God exists, because they don’t believe in God.
– Atheist does exist.
– Therefore God exists.

If there’s no God, there wouldn’t be any Atheist?
I think trying to prove that God doesn’t exist is harder and actually need more faith than the opposite.

]]> By: Clinton Christian http://verticalstress.com/2009/07/08/the-end-of-reason-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-79 Clinton Christian Sun, 02 Aug 2009 09:54:07 +0000 http://verticalstress.com/?p=169#comment-79 This book would seem very convincing to the average individual that wouldn't read the book critically, or hasn't investigated the opposing arguments. The preface could have easily been the preface for Sam Harris' book, "The End of Faith." I seriously thought I was reading a preface to an Atheist book. Very poor argument for religion. The family example only portrays intolerance and illogic. <em>You don't believe what I believe, therefore I live in despair.</em> Also, since the mother killed herself, she not only was a bad Christian, she will burn for eternity (according to the bible). Dump reason for faith he says? He should apply this faith to every other aspect of his life. Then if still alive, deduce which is most appropriate. This book would seem very convincing to the average individual that wouldn’t read the book critically, or hasn’t investigated the opposing arguments.
The preface could have easily been the preface for Sam Harris’ book, “The End of Faith.” I seriously thought I was reading a preface to an Atheist book. Very poor argument for religion. The family example only portrays intolerance and illogic. You don’t believe what I believe, therefore I live in despair.
Also, since the mother killed herself, she not only was a bad Christian, she will burn for eternity (according to the bible).
Dump reason for faith he says? He should apply this faith to every other aspect of his life. Then if still alive, deduce which is most appropriate.

]]> By: James http://verticalstress.com/2009/07/08/the-end-of-reason-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-78 James Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:19:56 +0000 http://verticalstress.com/?p=169#comment-78 Cripes that sounds like a terrible book. Thanks for saving us the trouble of slogging through it ourselves! Cripes that sounds like a terrible book. Thanks for saving us the trouble of slogging through it ourselves!

]]> By: Kari Pätilä http://verticalstress.com/2009/07/08/the-end-of-reason-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-74 Kari Pätilä Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:09:07 +0000 http://verticalstress.com/?p=169#comment-74 <cite>…after reading a popular atheist’s book, he has renounced his family’s faith.</cite> This is the part I agree with: he has renounced his <strong>family’s faith</strong>. The so-called Christian children are just children of Christians. I have a hard time believing that religion is something we are all born with. …after reading a popular atheist’s book, he has renounced his family’s faith.

This is the part I agree with: he has renounced his family’s faith. The so-called Christian children are just children of Christians. I have a hard time believing that religion is something we are all born with.

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